Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:25:28 -0700 From: jmgs (jmgs) Subject: Re: Fuzzy logic example Hi Richard, Thanks for your example application of fuzzy logic (a non-Aristotelian 'logic'). I've added it to the related thread in the g-s. web archive I'm maintaining. I'll add that, as I understand it, we can make a clear distinction between "fuzzy logic" and "probabilistic logic" (statistical reasoning): when reasoning with probabilities, we're concerned with the "likelihood" that an event will happen 100% or that a statement is 100% true ... and when reasoning with fuzzy sets, we're more concerned about a statement being partially true (and partially false) or an event happening only to some degree. For better or for worse, a probability-distribution curve can provide a reasonable measure of fuzzy-set membership ... which, I believe, has led a number of theorists to claim there 'is no' difference between fuzzy and statistical theory! This brings up a related consideration: some g-s'ists (including Korzybski himself, I believe!) seem to have assumed that Aristotelian 'logic' has a place in a non-Aristotelian system. K wrote of 'logical existence' and 'logical fate' (premises1 "lead to" theories1 and not to theories2 ... one needs to adopt premises2 which "lead to" theories2). Stuart Mayper wrote a paper (in one of the GSB's) about using non-A means to derive higher-order abstractions in the form of hypotheses, and then use A-logic to derive predictions to be tested. Many g-s'ists, along with K, hold the practice of 'mathematics' as an example of one of the "best" ways to use our 'neural-systems', yet most of traditional 'mathematics' relies on A-logic. It seems to me the key aspect of A-logic used in these examples relies on the validity of "inference" (e.g., if A always leads to B, and we have A, then "certainly" we have B). I briefly searched in various 'Logic' texts for some "proofs" of the validity of inference, but could find none (admittedly, I didn't perform an exhaustive search). The closest I got was a statement by Bertrand Russell to the effect that he couldn't prove it; it just seemed quite reasonable to him, and he posited that perhaps this neural-hardwiring of the practice of "inferring" evolved in us over the past few million years, and was apparently successful enough to allow our ancestors to reproduce. Well ...! Every "inferring" that a human being performs, he/she performs it neurally ... and perhaps the "automatic" action is not necessarily the _only_ neural action that can be performed. If we can "delay our reactions" to some degree, then that opens the door to some other possible actions, such as "non-Aristotelian inferring". I believe the fuzzy-theorists have been working on this very problem, though most perhaps don't realize the 'implications' (:-) this has for the very workings of their own brain-minds (some, however, do seem to realize this). So, they've developed fuzzy-inference, fuzzy-arithmetic, fuzzy-mathematics, etc. ... rooting out the A-logic from fields previously dominated by its use. This, of course, leads to the possibility of rooting out its use in general-semantics as well. We no longer need to assume we have to use A-logic in part of our system ... and I suggest we consider the possibility of going "fully" non-Aristotelian (and I hope you don't consider that "fully" to 'be' an implicitly "Aristotelian" qualifier ... it takes place on the next higher level of abstraction, as in Einstein's theory that "all" motion is relative and Korzybski's theory that "all" knowledge about the imperceptible process/event level of 'reality' is to be regarded as tentative). -- John McPherson (jmgs@lumina.ucsd.edu) * Host, General Semantics mailing list (send posts to gs@lumina.ucsd.edu, admin to gs-request@lumina.ucsd.edu) ftp://lumina.ucsd.edu/pub/.../gs_dir/000_gs.html "General semantics ... an idea whose time was bound (to come ;-)."